Is SaaS Cloud Computing?

June 27th, 2008 Tags: , , ,
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Throughout the CloudCamp sessions, most people discussed cloud computing as infrastructure in the cloud. People talk about the advantage of not having to procure and configure physical servers. People talk about the elasticity and utility factors of the cloud. People talk about scalability of the cloud. But not once, at least in my conversations, did people talk about the applications in the cloud. The one time that I raised the question that related SaaS to cloud computing, I was immediately told that SaaS is not cloud computing. Some even questioned wether Google App Engine is considered to be a cloud.

During Reuven Cohen’s “What is Cloud Computing?” session at CloudCamp, the first question I asked the group after Reuven did the introduction was, “What is Computing?

Wikipedia defines it as the activity of developing and using computer technology, including computer hardware and software.

Computing Curricula 2005[1] defined computing: (via Wikipedia)

In a general way, we can define computing to mean any goal-oriented activity requiring, benefiting from, or creating computers. Thus, computing includes designing and building hardware and software systems for a wide range of purposes; processing, structuring, and managing various kinds of information; doing scientific studies using computers; making computer systems behave intelligently; creating and using communications and entertainment media; finding and gathering information relevant to any particular purpose, and so on. The list is virtually endless, and the possibilities are vast.

Based on these definitions, it would seem like running and using any type of application, including SaaS applications, would be considered “computing.”

So then what is cloud computing?

Gartner defines cloud computing as, “a style of computing in which massively scalable IT-enabled
capabilities are delivered ‘as a service’ to multiple customers using Internet technologies.”

I am generally fine with this definition. It is sufficiently vague that it can cover many different things. It’s also not that different from how Reuven Cohen defined it, “Internet centric software.” So let’s for the time being accept this as the definition.

However, I will try to go a bit further here. In the computer industry, there’s always been the notions of platforms and applications. Wikipedia says that

In computing, a platform describes some sort of hardware architecture or software framework (including application frameworks), that allows software to run. Typical platforms include a computer’s architecture, operating system, programming languages and related runtime libraries or graphical user interface.

and

Application software is a subclass of computer software that employs the capabilities of a computer directly and thoroughly to a task that the user wishes to perform. … Typical examples of software applications are word processors, spreadsheets, and media players.

This is no different in the cloud computing world. In the cloud computing world, there are “Cloud Platforms” and “Cloud Applications.” Cloud platforms include offerings such as Amazon’s EC2 and S3, or Joyent’s Accelerator. Cloud applications include offerings such as Salesforce.com, NetSuite, SuccessFactor and many others.

So, is SaaS cloud computing?

Absolutely!

Since using applications is considered to be computing, and that SaaS is basically providing application software in the cloud, then using SaaS should be considered cloud computing.

Jason Stamper also says “yes” and sees no difference whatsoever.

Interesting enough, Gartner says “no” and calls it a myth that people consider SaaS to be cloud computing. Why they say no is a mystery to me. If you look at Gartner’s definition on cloud computing, there’s absolutely nothing there that would exclude SaaS.

What do you think? Is SaaS Cloud Computing?

4 Responses to “Is SaaS Cloud Computing?”

  1. Chris Sears Says:

    > Is SaaS Cloud Computing?

    The terms are not synonymous, but most examples of SaaS are also examples of Cloud Computing.

    SaaS (or any *aaS) is about business model and delivery. If I buy SaaS, I’m going to expect a very different experience than if I bought SaaP (software as a product). With SaaS, I expect the vendor will take provide the infrastructure for the offering, install it, manage it and support it… all on my behalf. I get to just use the software and not worry about major upfront investment. SaaS is something that business/management types should care about.

    Cloud computing is about abstraction and architecture. If I’m writing an app that uses cloud computing, some functions of my app are outsourced to a service that lives somewhere else on the Internet and abstracts away the underlying implementation details of providing that service. In this way, cloud computing is just an evolution of some long standing application design trends, just like client/server apps and n-tier distributed apps. Cloud computing is something that developer/systems types should care about.

    To illustrate my points, consider some specific examples…

    Is GMail or HotMail cloud computing?

    Yes, but not in a very sexy way. The only cloud aspect of it is that users connect over the Internet.

    Is GMail or HotMail SaaS?

    Yes, but also not in an interesting way. The product that they replace are free desktop email programs like Outlook Express.

    I’m sure there are other interesting examples. I suspect if we could come up with some good edge cases the true definition and limits of the terms would become more clear.


  2. Giacomo Says:

    I would say that SaaS is a subset of Cloud Computing, as well as PaaS and IaaS. So strictly speaking SaaS is not equal to Cloud Computing.


  3. onsaas Says:

    Giacomo,

    You are absolutely correct. That’s exactly what I meant in the post. Thank you for helping to clarify that.

    Jian


  4. My Domain Says:

    Joe…

    Check out my domain sometime….


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