Comments on: Mike Kavis on Cloud Computing http://cloudfeed.net/2008/06/15/mike-kavis-on-cloud-computing/ Cloud Computing, Infrastructure-as-a-service, Platform-as-a-Service, Software-as-a-Service Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:33:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Classie Sedore http://cloudfeed.net/2008/06/15/mike-kavis-on-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-1752 Classie Sedore Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:31:48 +0000 http://onsaas.net/?p=36#comment-1752 Your blog is one of my favorite. I m gonna come back again, thank you. Your blog is one of my favorite. I m gonna come back again, thank you.

]]> By: Mike Kavis http://cloudfeed.net/2008/06/15/mike-kavis-on-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Mike Kavis Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:19:30 +0000 http://onsaas.net/?p=36#comment-7 Fair enough. When I talked about security in my vlog, I was referring to the PaaS providers. I am not saying that they are without issues, but for most companies (especially small & medium size companies), they will have infrastructure and security that is far superior to what these companies are able to invest in. The reason is because it is their core competency. For example, my company is a medium size company and we only have two people in our security department. We don't have the people and the budget to build the level of security that the PaaS provides have to build. That was my point. My point was not "Trust the Cloud". The PaaS providers still have a way to go to mature their technologies. This is evident with the recent outages of Amazon and Google (just yesterday). But a few years from now, this will be the normal way of computing. First the non mission critical apps will start moving over. Once the PaaS providers prove that they are indeed stable, secure, and reliable, the other apps will follow. This will take between 5-10 years before this is mainstream (IMO) but its coming. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers! Fair enough. When I talked about security in my vlog, I was referring to the PaaS providers. I am not saying that they are without issues, but for most companies (especially small & medium size companies), they will have infrastructure and security that is far superior to what these companies are able to invest in. The reason is because it is their core competency. For example, my company is a medium size company and we only have two people in our security department. We don’t have the people and the budget to build the level of security that the PaaS provides have to build.

That was my point. My point was not “Trust the Cloud”. The PaaS providers still have a way to go to mature their technologies. This is evident with the recent outages of Amazon and Google (just yesterday). But a few years from now, this will be the normal way of computing. First the non mission critical apps will start moving over. Once the PaaS providers prove that they are indeed stable, secure, and reliable, the other apps will follow. This will take between 5-10 years before this is mainstream (IMO) but its coming.

Thanks for the feedback. Cheers!

]]> By: admin http://cloudfeed.net/2008/06/15/mike-kavis-on-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-5 admin Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:39:25 +0000 http://onsaas.net/?p=36#comment-5 Hi Mike, Thanks for the comment. In <a href="http://onsaas.net/2008/06/03/defining-saas-paas-iaas-etc/" rel="nofollow">my view</a>, which is consistent with one of the better definitions out there by RightScale, is that cloud computing has three levels: infrastructure in the cloud, platform in the cloud and applications in the cloud. So all three are considered to be cloud computing. So I don't believe I am confusing cloud computing and PaaS. PaaS is just one form of cloud computing. My point is simply that we shouldn't take security for granted just because it's it's Google, Amazon or SalesForce. We should continue to be vigilant about it and understand how these companies can protect your data. Chris Hoff has a <a href="On-Demand SaaS Vendors Able to Secure Assets Better than Customers?" rel="nofollow">fairly good blog post</a> on this specific topic. Btw, the security issue is not just a PaaS provider issue. The same questions should be asked of IaaS, PaaS, or SaaS providers. Thanks Hi Mike,

Thanks for the comment.

In my view, which is consistent with one of the better definitions out there by RightScale, is that cloud computing has three levels: infrastructure in the cloud, platform in the cloud and applications in the cloud. So all three are considered to be cloud computing. So I don’t believe I am confusing cloud computing and PaaS. PaaS is just one form of cloud computing.

My point is simply that we shouldn’t take security for granted just because it’s it’s Google, Amazon or SalesForce. We should continue to be vigilant about it and understand how these companies can protect your data. Chris Hoff has a fairly good blog post on this specific topic.

Btw, the security issue is not just a PaaS provider issue. The same questions should be asked of IaaS, PaaS, or SaaS providers.

Thanks

]]> By: Mike Kavis http://cloudfeed.net/2008/06/15/mike-kavis-on-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Mike Kavis Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:42:51 +0000 http://onsaas.net/?p=36#comment-4 You are confusing cloud computing with PaaS. Just because a company offers services in the cloud does not mean they have the level of security and investment I was talking about. I was referring to the Platform as a Service vendors like Google, Amazon, and SalesForce.com. These companies have massive data centers across the globe and World class infrastructure and security. You are confusing cloud computing with PaaS. Just because a company offers services in the cloud does not mean they have the level of security and investment I was talking about. I was referring to the Platform as a Service vendors like Google, Amazon, and SalesForce.com. These companies have massive data centers across the globe and World class infrastructure and security.

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